18 November, 2006

Quick BUT LONG UPDATE!
Buon Giorno,
My mood is super, amazing & I’m HAPPY these days! Socially active and have lots of love & heart breaking stories that I chit chatted with my friends during the pervious days but guess wut no more sharing details with you guys! Oh sooooooooooo excited too. My parents will travel and some body will start celebrating ………………yuppy I’M GONNA BUY SHISHAAAAAAAAA….fun will start soon **EVIL SMILE**

Anyways going back to your comments sorry 4 the delay. All in all, most of you got my point about the wrongness/rightness issue.
For some reason, I figured out the following with regards to some Arab bloggers:
-Shallow-minded, introvert, & Childish (wonder wut kind of education they have or wut kind of friends they r hanging out with)
-Got no point behind blogging so they have no clue what civilized conversation is all about.
-Start criticizing the arguer and insulting him/her simply because he/she has a different point of view. As a result, they forget what the point was & use their long sharp tongue & shiitty kind of communication to defend their image. Self insecure!

BTW firas I was about to change me mind but I think I would be mistaken if I did …I would be insulting my intelligence if I though of replying to your “SARCASTIC COMMENT”:
“PS to Arablady, take it easy,now looking at your avatar I see that you've taken my advice and you are all covered up, good for you”.
!!!

Sami,
My post wasn’t a response to the Arab Girl’s post. Her post just triggered some questions that would be dicussied sooner or later…I was talking about the trap we all tend to fall in: categorizing human beings according to our beliefs assuming we r RIGHT. GO back to wut D,
Shaykhspeara Sha'ira & Hannan have said about the right/wrong thing issue…they just rephrased or expressed my view but in a different way…
I guess it was a big mistake referring to her post in the first place. Agree with you but allow me to comment on the following:
““Not to wrong all girls, there is girls that were raised in environment that they found all people around them; their moms, their sisters,etc are comfortable wearing Bikini and that's why they wear it... but when a girl comes from Saudi Arabia to the U.S. and wear bikini here and then when the plane lands in Jeddah, she puts on the scarf and 3abyaa.. that's what is called slutty girl”””.
To me she is not a slutty girl! Don’t u people say in Rome do what Romans do!!& do we have to stick to wut ur culture/environment even if it goes against our personal values, individualism, & reasoning. Life is all about experiencing new things. Sounds you agree with me that its a matter of lifestyle too. at the same you r telling me if a person was born in a certain environment, she/he must stick to it & never change! So if my parents have their own religious & politics beliefs, I must follow blindly wut my brain was stuffed with. Then where have the role of external factors gone like media, friends, schools, university, traveling, …..etc.
Assume that your father is a communist, liberal, or fanatic should you believe in his convictions just because his is your father and knows better than you! they give us the basics & then its our duty to continue our life journey & build up our own system of values & beliefs..
Anyways, that girl might be a slut in ur opinion but I c her a VICTIM… victim of the unfair culture that allows the man to do wutever he wants but lists wut a woman should & should not do…they create generations with double standard views, values, & behaviors! We cover in front of the so called “society” but in reality we have our own secret life! Is this what the society wants!

clayfuture
no I wont tell anymore!

Nash & Dubai_Stud I dunno guys but I would be more than happy to have some identical copies of u 2 distribute…Arab women r in need of similar men…life would be much easier!

Ella
I hate them too ( ok come on don’t believe me, well I do..their actions make me do hate them!) but lets be honest with ourselves we both need each other! They r giving women kind of hard time….forget that male blogger but we cant deny that zillions of ppl think in a similar way…believe me I concluded that Education has nothing to do with the mentalities…I know a professor teaching at my university…he has PhD from the states but his wife doesn’t have a high school diploma…listen some men don’t prefer the educated girl coz they know she will make his life like hell ; ) …they want a robot not a women who thinks or has a strong personality… some of them want her without history, never talked to a male other than her father & bro, covered from head 2 toe….etc u know the story & the rest of the list..of course I’m not saying all of them but the majority! You get frustrated when u know that he lived most or part of his life abroad or probably educated at prestigious universities abroad! He still thinks the same way our ancestors used to c the world..they prefer the YOUNG woman will excellent cooking skills over those who have uni degrees…I dunno wut’s wrong with them…

digital nomad & Dina hala ladies…THX 4 the support & thx 4 dropping by….ana mraw2a kteer dina no body on earth can spoil my mood J & Dingital I love you too! Rejected..hmm sounds u have a story! Any ways welcome to my spot & plz tell me who doest judge us based on our nationalities & passports! Cheer up ..dont let anything/anybody make u feel down….
Omernos said...you are nobody to tell me what I have to do…go let your friend stop being sarcastic about Islam & Hejab, as if its really funny!
***UFT***

palo-girl
thanks 4 coming by & ppl start judging each other coz they have nothing worthwhile to do in life! 3alam fadya!

Hannan, people in our culture judge the book by its cover esp when it comes 2 women. I have been harassed several times IN PUBLIC PLACES by men with beard & short Kandoraaaaaa! The last time was long time ago when I went grocery shopping & was that man trying to give me his num :S going back & forth repeaaaaaating his num over & over again!
Wuts the hell! Wanna tell u a secret THEY freak me out whenever I c I man with beard & short kandora! They never lower their gaze & spend 10 hours staring @ u!! Drama Diva & Advents Halla & thx 4 sharing ur opinion

واحد من هالعالم
Get a life …don’t tell me that u r being sarcastic too!

Anyways,
Check out the following if interested..THX Abu JOuD!
http://www.al-akhbar.com/ar/node/12321

again this blog represents my personal opinions that might be wrong or right. I never claim that they are right either.
Have a great weekend...

Cheeeeeeeeerz
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After a frustrating tour to check out some blogs I ended up being called a dumb!!!


I read an interesting post
http://www.rebelliousarabgirl.net/?p=418 on Arab Girl’s blog.


Ok I tend to be trigging some “Dumb arguments” lately. Frankly speaking, if anybody would say this to me in real life I would smash his/her face!!

Simply I can’t tolerate disrespect & black-headedness. No one ever dares to talk to me in such a tone. Ok I’m dump but proud of my triviality which I consider it open-mindedness!

My fault & crime in life are that I don’t like to categorize human beings. I don’t like to judge who is a bitch, bastard, slut, who is gonna end up in hell or heaven simply because its none of my business!!

Girls in bikini are sluts and bitches! Oh they show their asses to the world! Who the hell am I to judge people or give them names? It’s her body, not mine! If she wants to reveal her body to the world then it’s her PERSONAL decision.

Each person has his/her own lifestyle. I ‘m neither defending nor promoting such actions but I don’t have any authority to tell her “oh, babe. Its wrong!”

Why the hell people think they know what’s wrong & right!!??

How many nationalities, cultures, and religions do we have??
So if any person on Earth is not abiding by Islam teachings or the Arab traditions, he/she is WRONG!! Is it the kind of Islam you are calling for?


If each person thinks that he is RIGHT while other DIFFERENT people are WRONG…then it’s a real disaster! Divided world with hatred being the median of communication…Peace Peace lets live with each other peacefully with neither generalization nor stereotyping!!!!!!!


Moreover, for a reason I really don’t know, I felt that the internet is male-dominated too. That’s driving me crazy. I thought I would escape my reality to find some open window to breathe and meet some ppl having a similar mentality of mine. Obviously, I’m mistaken!

The other day I checked out 7aree2a’s blog http://hareega.blogspot.com/and read a good post about prostitution so thought of checking the comments section (I wish if I did not).

And here we go I just read one of the most ………… (u fill in the blanks) comment from a Jordanian blogger ( male of course)……


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Firas said:
لهذا نقول أن المرأة و هي فتنة مكانها البيت الذي هو مملكتها و يعطيها كامل حقوقها
إزا مات زوجها الذي بالغالب هة ابن عمها، فان شيخ فاضل و جليل يتزوجها و يستر
عليهاأرجعوا نساءنا غلى المطابخ و البيت و اذا لا سمح الله خرجت من البيت
فعليها بالبرقع من فوق لتحت

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Translation into English

That’s why we say a woman being the source of bewitchment must stay at home which is her kingdom that gives her all her rights. In case the husband, most probably her cousin, passes away or dies, a decent Imam/ sheik will marry her to provide shelter for her.

Let women go back to kitchen and houses and in case a woman goes out side her house, God forbid, she must be covered & veiled from head to toe!!!

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The disaster is that by living in an Arab country I know I can’t sue him!! Do I have the right to commit suicide!! Gosh I can’t imagine the life of a woman full of sick ppl having such a mentality around her!!

Now I’m really sick of this shit!

Women are the source of prostitution
Women fool men
Women triggers men’s sexual desire and lead them to committing sins
Women are the source of every disaster in this world …they probably behind:

Earthquakes in Asia and the Far East
Hurricanes in the States
Tsunami
The Israeli-Arab conflict in the Middle East
Poverty in the Third World Countries
Starvation in Africa
Unemployment & crimes everywhere
All kind of pollution
The War on Lebanon & Iraq

IN A NUTSHELL THEY R RESPONSIBLE FOR

ALL the social, political, ethical, humanitarian, moral, educational, cultural, and environmental problems/crisis on Earth!!!

Since we r the Satan on Earth, why don’ they come up with some biological weapons to wipe US WOMEN off THE UNIVERSE! Isn’t better! So both of us would REST IN PEACE!!! Our existence bothers them like hell!!

Ya Allah please please please give me some patience and support to survive in these societies….pour your blessings on me to bear the fault of being a female!!!
Amen!

24 comments:

Abed. Hamdan said...

Dear ArabLady,

I really understand the reason of your anger, and I'm aware of the difficulties facing arab girls, so Im giving you execuses, im sorry for this.


But remember, we have the full right to have "personal opinions", and we can use our islam to decide what's right and what's wrong from the Islamic perspective. That is, I won't shout in public and start saying this is a whore and this is an infidel, not msh haik. but within my Muslim family, at least we can differentiate between what's right and what's wrong FOR US, and the reference is our Islam of course.

Now in our Islam, it's known that
لا اكراه في الدين

so we know what's right from our perspective, but we don't force it. But I would never acknowledge a girl who wears pikini, yes it's not my business, but according to my islamic measures, then this is wrong! wrong from my islamic perspective. now is she bitch ? I don't care, and I don't know, and this has nothing to do with her pikini. But still, from our islamic perspective, IT'S WRONG.

raw2i please, I know the blogsphere is full of losers and idiots, bedna net7ammalhom :)

Abufares said...

Hi Arab Lady

Don't think that I'm just trying to be nice but I really agree with you.
I think it's nobody's business to judge others. It's nobody's business to even give advise. People who don't like the personal individual behavior of others should just turn their head and eyes the other way.
We can disagree in politics but not in individual choice.
Ciao

Anonymous said...

I just want to thank you for your nice comments..
its really nice having you as a friend..

jumana

Me said...

Dear Hiba, i wish you would lighten up and look at the bright side of life. Life is good, men cannot live without women, and they will never ever try to get rid of us! We are here to stay!
i think tolerance is the key to living peacefully and happy. Also, when in Rome do what the Romans do, if you feel it is right! When you are living in an Islamic and Arabic culture, you have to respect it and live accordingly, it is not a bad way of living really. i hope you get to be around open minded people that will ease all the social pressures and know how to treat a woman. Do not let such virtual comments upset you, to each his own!
take care of yourself and be optimistic and happy!!

Arab Lady said...

D,
“I agree...rightness or wrongness is so subjective...except when it comes to crimes ... I think...”

Its killing & bugging me when every one plays the role of a police man! Each one has his own standards and limits based on his level of education, faith, and social surroundings.

Nothing absolute… it’s as u said so subjective….
Would like to thank you 4 coming by…hope u will find this space as a spot to find some females sharing u the same thoughts……
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Abu Feras,
“It's nobody's business to even give advice.”
True. If they just stop categorizing ppl! It would be enough…u know wut..it just leads to grouping ourselves based on who agree with us or who is perceived to be right…I duunooo but it’s the way Al Qaaida ppl think!! Maybe I’m exaggerating but it’s the truth!!

I do have some female heavy and light smokers! Shall I cut their heads off….they are just amazing…shall I isolate my self from those whose behaviors r not adopted by me? NO. They just accept me the way I’m and so do I !! big deal? It is for some people in the society! That’s why u don’t find harmony anymore!
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Dubai Stud,
The fist part of ur comment is terrific…I would drop my attitude towards males and run to the arms of the first man who would make my ears hear such a symphony!
“”””“I would prefer to think of women as

- a source of inspiration
- the one's who give birth to men
- triggering men’s desire to nurture and protect”””””””””””

BTW just wanna ask u… do u come up with ur own quotes urself or wut!!

Arab Lady said...

Jumana,
honey thxxxxxxxxxx a million times for ur visit …hope u r doing well …thx 4 keeping in touch …I really appreciate u passing by ….sometimes someone doesn’t feel like blogging 4 different reasons but definitely will check out ur blog frequently to c if u update………Take care
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Summer,
“Do not let such virtual comments upset you”

Well such virtual comments thrown by REAL human beings drive me crazy…well I do admit that I have some anger management issues…maybe that’s why I don’t take things easy…I found the comment so offensive and it’s a real catastrophe if young generations of Arabs think in a similar way!

Anyways, any kind of trivial stories even in real life strengthen me and make more & more persistent & focused…so after all I should thank them! Don’t u think so!

Well about the saying when in Rome do what the Romans do

NOT IN MY DICTIONARY! : )
Have a nice day & thanks plz don’t worry about ur YAL…Strong & stubborn as usual ;) after reading such posts I WILL continue blogging…its important to represent the thoughts of those who r DIFFERENT!....so here we go I AM HERE!WOMEN WILL REMAIN PAIN IN DA NECK FOR SOME PPL!

Does it sound like a public speech!
regards

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Arab Woman,

Oh I should thank Firas for his comment that broke ur silence( although it had a different intention)! U have been missed…hope u enjoyed ur vacation and plz consider the idea of having ur own blog!

Wish u sweet dreams…
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********Abed I guess we already clarified the idea

Blogger said...

Oh My God!

I'm the guy being quoted, yes I'm Firas.
I was BEING SARCASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To better understand my views on woman please read this post:
http://iheartamman.blogspot.com/2006/03/give-women-chance.html

I was just mocking certain people!

Can you please edit your post Arablady? Lol, I'll stop being sarcastic!


BTW Sue me :D

Sam said...

Anyone that read the quoted comment can tell it's not genuine and sarcastic. But let's assume it's a genuine thought. Then you, Arab Lady, cannot take this comment and project it on the whole other Arab males' thoughts.. I mean don't take a sample and make it a norm! you are doing the same thing that you're criticizing in your post.

Furthermore, I read the post of rebelliousarabgirl, and it was specifically about some Arab girls acting like slutty girls; so this has nothing to do with Islam and also has nothing to do with Non-Arabs or Non-Muslims... so my previous argument void your saying: "How many nationalities, cultures, and religions do we have??
So if any person on Earth is not abiding by Islam teachings or the Arab traditions, he/she is WRONG!! Is it the kind of Islam you are calling for?"...

Now back to the topic, I think Arabs (girls and guys) in general are sexually frustrated! and they want to be like the foreign people! many Arab guys and girls try to imitate their peers in the western societies not because the REALLY BELIEVE in these values, rather just because they want to feel different than their conservative Arab counterparts... I've seen a lot of Arab girls here in the U.S. that they just want to exploit their bodies for the sake of being on the hot spot! not because she is comfortable wearing these clothes or because she likes this fashion or model. That's the difference between the foreign girl and the Arab girl.. Not to wrong all girls, there is girls that were raised in environment that they found all people around them; their moms, their sisters,etc are comfortable wearing Bikini and that's why they wear it... but when a girl comes from Saudi Arabia to the U.S. and wear bikini here and then when the plane lands in Jeddah, she puts on the scarf and 3abyaa.. that's what is called slutty girl. and the same applies to the guys who come to the west, drink, sleep with sluts, .. and when they head back to their society you see him the one who is talking about purity and virtue and blah blah... This is called a retarded ass hole.. some other guys hang around slutty girls, night club every weekend, .. and when they want to get married they seek the girls that are covered and wear Hijab and never had male friends, never talked to strangers,.. and all the way down the conditions.

Doing whatever you want and being free in your choices, that's perfect.. but when you do these things you should be really comfortable with them and believe that this is what you are.. not what you want to be tonight and then tomorrow I will be different character! that's sickness...

Anonymous said...

Arabwoman

Reading your reply, with all due respect, made me sick to my stomach!

clayfuture said...

Hey I love women! I get fooled by them over and over again!! umm... don't tell anyone!

Dino$ said...

eh eh dah kol.. rawa2 ya gameel.... yes lots of thing out there will drive u mad.. especially when it comes to false judgemnets abt "women"... i feel kol il masayib il fil dinya they blame on WOMEN!

but there is always goood out there... maybe not as much as the bad.. but that is what keeps us goin and not just losing hope in all humanity... wa il takfkeero like that guy..... Alah 3een martoh!!!

(hug)

The Ego said...

Thanks for link...you're on mine as well :)

Destitute Rebel said...

Another Great post highlighting very important issues facing women especially muslim women all over the world. Personally I have always seen women to be much more braver, stronger, patient and sensitive to others needs then men. And it is usually the men who are im sorry to say most of what you'v said.

LocalExpat said...

"Who the hell am I to judge people or give them names?"

This is a quality most people do not have. And the few people who do have attained it at a much more mature age.
You have to be proud of yourself for having such an admirable trait.

I thought I was the only one who did not judge people or give them names. Hey now we have another thing in common ( including being unemployed) :-)

omar said...

you better make a post with an apology

for heaven's sake
you read the reply
post a comment namecalling him
and jump to your blog to post and rant about it

Uft

Aisha said...

lol i think that no one noticed that the dude that was quoted actually came to clarify that he was being sarcastic! miskeen!

but arablady, i can understand your frustration, and i just posted something about that.. i hate it when the community decides to judge everyone else and make it their business to analyze and criticize... kol wa7ed w rabbo!

:) and don't let these tings bother you so much.. iddinya ma btiswa!

Hanan said...

I never really understood this whole labelling and name-calling thing. Why should we put people in boxes? A couple of questions I keep on raising whenever such a topic is discussed are: whether all women in Hijab decent and pure? Are all women in tight clothes and short skirts sluttish?
Can you guarantee that a guy with a beard and a short kandoorah is straight? And a guy on a Harley is a player?

PS: Your post made my day! =)

Nash said...

Dear Arab Lady,

Another interesting, thought provoking post.

A lot of good comments from others over here. I would just like to add that Firas said he was being sarcastic. Lets assume he was sarcastic, I am sure there are others out there with the same line of thinking.

Islam has given woman a very high status, I can give many examples, but one that comes in mind is Tawwaaf. When doing Tawwaaf between Saffa and Marwa we are actually following Haajir's footsteps, who happens to be a woman. So it shows, that no Muslim (man or woman) can complete his religion without following these footsteps. Our beloved prophet has insisted we respect our mothers three times more than our fathers ("Ummi, Ummi, Ummi, thumma Abii").


This goes to show that women are regarded highly in our religion. Unfortunatety the society treats them differently, by downgrading and all sorts of things. This treament is not limited to the Arab World, but it extends to western men, asian men, japanese and many societies.

Lets hope education and awareness programs will elimninate such treatments.

Anonymous said...

من موقع
http://alzakera.eu/

شعر: المرأة كلها عورة

للشاعر: hades

لاكلام !
لاتتبع اللئام !
وإلاّ ستُنصب لك منصات الإعدام ،
وعلى جسدك وروحك السلام !....
واسمع ياهذا ماقاله سيد الأنام :
"المرأة كلها عورة!!!"

لانقاش ياكفرة !
فالمرأة كلهــــــــا عورة ..
من أسفل قدميها حتى الغرّة ،
صوتها ، وجهها ، عينيها ...شعرها ، حاجبيها ...
مافوق الصدر وماتحت السُّرة ...
كلها عورة ....
ألا تفهم ؟
كلها عورة ...
.....
هي نصف دين ، لأنها تأتيها الدورة ...
وهي نصف عقل ،
ونصف شهادة ،
فقد أثبت العلم والعلماء ، بأنها غبية وليست لها ذاكرة بالمّرة ...
لها نصف الميراث والنصف كثير ،
فهي لاتستأهل ولا حتى نصف ليرة ...

ثكلتك أمك ، إن قلت بأنها حُرّة ،
إن قبلتها أحدثت إنقلاباً ، هزمت جيشاً...
أفقرت شعباً ...
أحدثت زلزالاً ...
أجهضت ثورة .....
................
إن إقتربت منها ، فكأنما إقتربت من جهنم الحمرا ..
وعاقبتك جداً مُرّة ...
المرأة نارٌ يازنديق ...
إتقيها "ولو بشق تمرة !"

الدين أكرمها فجعل الرجل قوّاماً عليهــــــــــــا ،
إذا خرجت من البيتِ كسّر قدميهــا ،
إذا تكلمت مع الرجالِ قطع شفتيها ،
إذا نظرت من النافذةِ ثمل عينيها ،
إذا لمست أحداً سلخ جلدها .... نشر يديها ،
إذا سمعت أغنية صبّ الرصاص في أُذنيها ...
وإذا دعاها إليه ليلاً وأبت ، تركت الملائكة شغلها وأعمالها ، أكلها وشربها ، تسبيحها ، وطاعتها ،
صلاتها ، وعبادتها ،
وباتت من الليل حتى الصباح تُنزل اللعنة
على الذين خلفوها وعليها ...

الرجل قوّام عليها ..
فسرّ أحداث التاريخ كله من بين فخذيها ...

ومادون ذلك فلتسقط الحضارات ..
لتُدمر البلاد ومافيها وماعليها ،
لتجوع الشعوب ...
المهم أن لا ُتلمس شفتيها ...
وأن لايقترب أحد من ثدييها ...

شيخونا البواسل أعلنوا الجهاد ضدها ..

لعنوها من أعلى المنابر ،
جعلوا شمّ عبقها من أكبر الكبائر ،
قطّعوا عقدها ، حطموا لها الأساور ..
منعوها حتى من زيارة المقابر ....

لكنهم ....
إذا "جنّ عليهم الليلُ" لهثوا كالكلاب خلفهـــــا ،
تغنوا بعطرها ،
قبّلوا صورها ،
عانقوا وسادتها ،
حلموا بالنوم على صدرهـــــا ،
توضؤوا بعرقها ،
إغتسلوا ببولهــــــا ،
وهاموا بجفون جفون عينيهــــــــــــــا ....

الإلهُ قدسهــــا ،
و بعد ذكرالغائط ذكرها ،
ومع الحمار والكلب في نواقض الصلاة جمعها ،
والقسم الأعظم من جهنم حجز لها ....

المرأة ياعزيزي هي أمُّ الفتن ،
هي أمُّ المصائب وأمُّ المحن ،
المرأة تُغيّر التاريخ ،
وتقهر الزمن ..

لذلك فالمرأة عورة ....
ألا تفهم ؟
كلها عورة

di.di said...

100% agreed with digital nomad,
dont judge a book by its cover.. Even if one was borned as a muslim, it doesnt guaranteed him/her to die as "perfect" muslim...

adevents said...

women or men all the same they do bad and they do good. and every one of us did something bad in his life and something good also , no one have the right to judge any one God only can do that job

Rejected said...

I was being judged just by my passport!

Anonymous said...

it was not sarcasm...
it was only a piece that i liked. i didn't write it.
but i can sense the sarcasm in it.
"Get a life"!
thank u
i've found ur blog while reading firas post.
and yes
it was sarcasm and i like it!
it seems we all need to say so in advance.

Anonymous said...

There is a site similar to yours to express arab women suffering:
Arab girl: http://www.thearabgirl.com/